it was always pick as many fights as possible. no. i think -- i think you -- wherever you are, you use the event to your advantage and if you're going into a hostile audience -- for me, and i think usually for most politicians, it's to do what tim kaine is doing, by the way, from what i've heard across virginia very well, he's going to all of his enemies first and saying hey, listen, i understand you're not going to be with me, but i'm going to always listen to you. you know, i always would go into neutrals. on this stage, i don't think there was any doubt about it he was playing to conservatives, some would say cynically and he was playing to independents saying, hey, you know, all the stuff you heard about me i only tell people what they want to hear, watch this. and let me give you one more clip, here's mitt romney when he got booed talking about president obama's health care plan. >> i'm going to eliminate every nonessential expensive program i can find, that includes obama care, and i'm going to work to reform and save -- [ boo ] >> of course, steve rattner, throughout the day, mitt romney